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In Awe of a Mosque

Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:53 PM EST
history, islam, christianity, spain, cordoba, religious-conflict
By Neetu M.

Time for peace

Mezquita Mosque, Cordoba Cathedral

Mosque or Cathedral?

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I am not Muslim. I am not Christian. I belong to no religion, yet standing in front of Mezquita, the Cordoba Cathedral in Spain, I was enraptured by its beauty and its grandeur. One of the most outstanding architectural achievements of Islamic art and skill in the world, it has a turbulent history. One that captures the past within the past. 

Dating back to the time of the Moors in Spain, it was the site of an ancient Visigothic Church, and was bought by the Caliph of Cordoba from the Christian community for purposes of building a mosque. This magnificent structure was built over a period of two centuries, from about 785 to 1002, and became the place of worship for the then most prosperous city in the western world - Cordoba. Populated with over 100,000 people and comprising 500 or so mosques.

Walking through the doors and into the building, I was struck by the Christian elements within the Islamic elements of its interior. Am I in a mosque, or in a church? Through its arched, geometrically perfect doorways, always seemingly unending no matter where you stood and where you looked, it had the complex feel of a dual personality. 

Captured by Ferdinand III of Castille in 1236, it returned to Christianity.

 

In 1236, Cordoba was captured from the Moors by King Ferdinand III of Castile and rejoined Christendom. The Christians initially left the architecture Mezquita largely undisturbed - they simply consecrated it, dedicated it to the Virgin Mary, and used it as a place of Christian worship.

King Alfonso X oversaw the construction of the Villaviciosa Chapel and the Royal Chapel within the structure of the mosque. The kings who followed added further Christian features: Enrique II rebuilt the chapel in the 14th century; a nave was constructed with the patronage of Carlos V, king of a united Spain.

The heavy, incongruous Baroque choir was sanctioned in the very heart of the mosque by Charles V in the 1520s. Artists and architects continued to add to the existing structure until the late 18th century, making the Mezquita an intriguing architectural oddity.  (Sacred Destinations, Spain)

Today, it continues to be one of the most splendid buildings in the world, capturing the conflicting worlds of Islam and Christianity, echoing the history of each. It is said that at one time the site was shared by both. It is also recorded that its beauty as a mosque was so captivating that the Christian kings who subsequently commissioned the construction of a Cathedral within the Islamic walls decided not to destroy it, retaining its original construction. 

We were told of various instances in past years when some Muslim students came and prayed there as they would in a mosque, leading to a furor and some violence. Standing before this Cathedral you wonder, if perhaps, they still felt the awe of a grand Mosque? It is unmistakable that the two are intertwined. 

If religions could co-exist in the same manner, maybe the world would be a better place. 

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Neetu M.

This was truly one of the biggest highlights of my trip to Spain last year!

  • 5 votes
Reply#1 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:55 PM EST
etva

What an incredible place. Thanks Neetu.

  • 5 votes
Reply#2 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 2:02 PM EST
Neetu M.

You're welcome, etva. Thanks for stopping by to read and comment.

  • 4 votes
#2.1 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 6:04 PM EST
mrsrachelm

Breath taking!

  • 1 vote
#2.2 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 12:04 PM EST
Neetu M.

Oh, thank you, mrsrachel! I am very happy to see you here!

    #2.3 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 12:07 PM EST
    mrsrachelm

    I LOVE seeing the grand architecture, art work, music, clothing, etc of all kinds of cultures, religions, etc. I'll likely never get a chance to see all the places I'd like to go personally, so I'm always appreciative of great pics.

    • 1 vote
    #2.4 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 12:13 PM EST
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    YaddaYadda

    Really beautiful Neetu. And thanks for the history lesson as well!

    • 5 votes
    Reply#3 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 2:31 PM EST
    Neetu M.

    Thanks for visiting, YaddaYadda. This marvel cannot be explained without a brief history of how it came about. I am glad you appreciated it!

    • 4 votes
    #3.1 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 6:06 PM EST
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    grump in NM

    Oh, crap. I was only about 50 miles away in Seville. I missed that one and I now wish I had seen it.

    Attended Christmas mass at the Cathedral in Seville and almost became a Catholic overnight. 6 cardinals performed the mass. There were angels flying around the high arches. They might have been pigeons, I am not sure.

    • 6 votes
    Reply#4 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 3:06 PM EST
    Neetu M.

    That is a shame, grump. You would have loved it! Well, if you ever go again....you can see more than pigeons!

    • 4 votes
    #4.1 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:18 PM EST
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    Jonathan-1917156

    Even though I also am not part of any religious affiliation (I consider my self a militant agnostic), but am in awe at the majesty of many houses of worship.

    Not sure if you ever plan to go to Turkey though but if you do, make sure you don't miss the Hague Sophia. It also has elements of both orthodox christianity and islam and is an amazing engineering achievement to boot.

    • 2 votes
    Reply#5 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 4:22 PM EST
    Neetu M.

    You are quite like me then, Jonathan. There is much beauty religion has given the world; shame about the ugliness, though. The wars, the bloodshed, the intolerance is quite overwhelming. If I do go to Turkey, as I hope to one day, I will certainly visit the Hague Sophia! Thank you.

    • 3 votes
    #5.1 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 6:10 PM EST
    Neetu M.

    Somewhere on the Vine, we have an unfinished discussion, Jonathan. I am not chickening out, I am just tired of politics for the moment. All the ridiculous issues that are taking front stage just make me think that ultimately we are going back to the law of the jungle!

      #5.2 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 12:55 PM EST
      Jonathan-1917156

      well too bad my name isn't george, because then I could be george of the jungle and a tune could be sung about me.

        #5.3 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 2:37 PM EST
        Neetu M.

        Too bad, Jonathan, too bad! Thanks for stopping by!

          #5.4 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 2:48 PM EST
          Jonathan-1917156

          And I remember the 'I need to think about it and get back to you' comment, I just don't remember the topic itself.

            #5.5 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:04 PM EST
            Neetu M.

            The health insurance issue! I remember well. I am not running away, I promise.

              #5.6 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:49 PM EST
              Jonathan-1917156

              well I just pray I haven't detracked that article.

                #5.7 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:58 PM EST
                Neetu M.

                If you have, so be it! Perfect place to pray, before the Cordoba Cathedral! Very appropriate, I should think. Maybe I have it somewhere in my trackers...another time, please!

                  #5.8 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:40 PM EST
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                  HollyKl

                  Fascinating pictures and narrative, Neetu. I have no religious affiliation, either, but the grandeur of this place is amazing.

                  • 3 votes
                  Reply#6 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:45 PM EST
                  Neetu M.

                  I am glad you liked the article, Holly! I will be around at your column soon. Thank you.

                  • 4 votes
                  #6.1 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:20 PM EST
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                  Kara Shalee

                  Neetu, what an excellent piece of writing, with inclusion of pictorial as well as literary descriptions and history.

                  Thank you for your very excellent contribution to the group!!

                  Kara

                  • 2 votes
                  Reply#7 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 2:41 AM EST
                  Neetu M.

                  Sorry, Kara, I thought I had already responded to your comment! Thank you - you are too kind in your praise. It is just a little piece of writing of my feelings about the place.

                  • 4 votes
                  #7.1 - Mon Feb 13, 2012 9:22 PM EST
                  Kara Shalee

                  Effective as always!

                  • 1 vote
                  #7.2 - Mon Feb 13, 2012 11:52 PM EST
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                  Anna-90776

                  Amazing. Well said and educational. Lovely place. Thank you for sharing it.

                  • 2 votes
                  Reply#8 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:51 AM EST
                  Neetu M.

                  Thank you, Anna. I am glad you enjoyed reading it. I love sharing bits and pieces of some experiences, with anyone who cares to hear or read them!

                  • 3 votes
                  #8.1 - Mon Feb 13, 2012 9:23 PM EST
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                  Circled Thrice

                  Very impressive, Neetu. I've never been to Spain, but would love to visit. Thank you for sharing.

                  • 1 vote
                  Reply#9 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:06 PM EST
                  Neetu M.

                  Nice to meet you, Circled Thrice! Love your name. Thanks for reading and commenting on my article. It was a very impressive place!

                  • 1 vote
                  #9.1 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 7:42 PM EST
                  Kearney Outlaw

                  Neetu, CT is far too modest to invite you himself, so allow me. He has some excellent travel articles with some great pics. Take a visit to his column when you have some time.

                    #9.2 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:26 PM EST
                    Neetu M.

                    Well, Kearney, I would love to visit CT's column and shall do so right away! Thank you.

                      #9.3 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:21 AM EST
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                      Kearney Outlaw

                      Great article and beautiful pics.

                      I was born in Madrid but left before my 4th birthday. I'm sure my parents have stories, though!

                      • 1 vote
                      Reply#10 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:20 PM EST
                      Neetu M.

                      Thanks, Kearney! I bet you remember nothing of your early years there, but I am sure you if you went back, you would have a deja vu feeling about it. Have you returned to visit ever? It is quite an experience!

                        #10.1 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 7:45 PM EST
                        Kearney Outlaw

                        Never. Though my mother has returned several times. I have fleeting memories of some things. Not much. Colored tiles somewhere in Seville... Dusty streets with donkeys outside our apartment in Madrid... That sort of thing.

                          #10.2 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:28 PM EST
                          Neetu M.

                          "Dusty streets with donkeys??" No, I never saw that!

                            #10.3 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:20 AM EST
                            Kearney Outlaw

                            That might have been a 1960 thing. ;-)

                              #10.4 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:21 AM EST
                              grump in NM

                              I was at a medieval fair in Seville a while back. There were donkeys and horses everywhere. And knights in armor, too. It was kind of spooky how really medieval everything looked.

                                #10.5 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:37 AM EST
                                Kearney Outlaw

                                Were they selling churros?

                                  #10.6 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:39 AM EST
                                  Neetu M.

                                  To die for, Kearney! With the most incredible chocolate to dip them in!

                                    #10.7 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:53 AM EST
                                    Neetu M.

                                    In Seville, we did a flamenco chase - subject for another article! In a few days, perhaps.

                                    All the dancers had disappeared from Seville over the 2 nights we searched from them, and on the last day, we learnt where they went! I will have to pull out all my memories to get a story on that. Maybe, you know about that, grumps?

                                    • 1 vote
                                    #10.8 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 12:00 PM EST
                                    Kearney Outlaw

                                    Carloz lives in Spain. He'd be another good resource for you and Grump. (Carloz is a great addition to anyone's friends list, as well.)

                                      #10.9 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 12:40 PM EST
                                      Neetu M.

                                      Thanks again, Kearney! I will look him up.

                                        #10.10 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 12:42 PM EST
                                        grump in NM

                                        My daughter in law has relatives all over Spain. Where ever we go, there are people taking us in and feeding us. It is most wonderful. They drag us about showing us stuff -- stuff that the regular tourists don't ever see. It is the only way to travel, for me at least.

                                        • 1 vote
                                        #10.11 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:44 PM EST
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                                        Mrs D-1475814

                                        If religions could co-exist in the same manner, maybe the world would be a better place.

                                        Indeed it would! The major religions... Christian, Jewish, Islam... all believe in the same God. Two believe in a prophet.. Jesus and Muhammad and the other is waiting for their prophet according to God's word.But, with that said, as my dear Native American friend Kavika states.. "We are all related." So, I hope peace for all.

                                        Love the photos! I sure wish that I could see the beauty of the Cordoba Cathedral in person. If fact, I would love to visit the ancient cities in the Arab countries to see the artistic works of their Mosques.

                                        • 1 vote
                                        Reply#11 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:42 AM EST
                                        Neetu M.

                                        You would indeed love the Cathedral, Mrs D. And not just the Cathedral, Cordoba is one of the finest places to visit in Spain, if you ever go there.

                                        Thank you, and I do hope for peace too!

                                          #11.1 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:53 AM EST
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                                          Socrates1

                                          Spain is an interesting place, due in no small measure to its mixed history.

                                          I just have to mention that times have changed, as the pictures reflect, in terms of proper decorum.

                                          Not that long ago, women were required to cover their heads, along with other restrictions. I wonder how long it will be before taking off one's shoes to visit a Mosque is no longer required.

                                          This is not meant to spark a political debate, I just remember my mother frantically searching for a hankerchief for my sister as she had nothing else to cover here head at the time.

                                            Reply#12 - Wed Feb 29, 2012 10:36 PM EST
                                            Neetu M.

                                            Yes, Socrates, times have changed in Spain. And you are right about the mixed history too. I think, though, that it has been a very long time since the Islamic times there! When were you there last in that particular situation, I wonder?

                                            Places of worship don't change much in their traditions, whatever the faith. They do remain embedded in the past in many ways.

                                            Thanks for stopping by. You are always welcome here!

                                              #12.1 - Thu Mar 1, 2012 6:43 AM EST
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                                              CL1

                                              I was so happy to be brought here. The photos are certainly exquisite. Thank you!

                                              Having never had a reason to be in a Mosque, I don't have the comparative background of the many unique differences between a Mosque and a Cathedral, I just know that I was in awe of every Cathedral I have ever been in, and so again, with your photos.

                                              After studying your final photo, the differences are very apparent; a beautiful blending of two different worlds.

                                              I found myself thinking of the middle-east conflict, and a possibility of a blending and sharing of the Holy Lands, buildings with elements of each, where each Faith could worship separately, yet together.

                                              • 1 vote
                                              Reply#13 - Thu Mar 1, 2012 11:53 AM EST
                                              Neetu M.

                                              Wouldn't that make ours a more peaceful world? If such a possibility were possible!

                                              I am happy you came by, CL1!Thank you.

                                              • 1 vote
                                              #13.1 - Fri Mar 2, 2012 1:27 PM EST
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